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Thread: My sponsored 78 shovelhead build thread

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    shit, there's a fresh rebuilt one for $229 on ebay right now.

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    gonna do a wacky lace paintjob like the ole' days?

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    I really like what they did with that old FLH. I like that they kept the early shovel as well. I love that they used the original paint codes. My uncle still has his 69 FLH and it was this color.
    Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do
    Sometimes won't know how to take him

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    I would like to donate some blinkers and a tailight off my warrior
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    in for updates

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    Are you under some retarded time crunch too? just like they do on the bike shows to make it suspenceful lol.

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    Certainly hope not.
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    Sometimes won't know how to take him

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    The time deadline is JUNE, which is good. They know we're all amateurs and don't have tons of time to throw at this.

    As for the competition, haven't even checked. Going to treat this as a personal build and just go with it. If something cool happens, then that's rad.

    For the style, I'm leaning more towards a JDM style harley. I love that look.
    http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=97524
    Don't click that unless you want to spend all day looking at awesome JDM harleys.

    The look I'm shooting for is something like this:


    or



    In fact the up/out/rake look with tall tires I find to be horrible.

    Here is the rough "spec" list the guy running the contest requested:

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    1)	1978 Shovel.  Iím not sure what the exact model is.  Donít rightly 
              care, because Iím going to bastardize the shit out of it.  Itís hard for 
              me to give you a list of things that I will do to the bike because I tend 
              to be pretty spontaneous and dynamic, but hereís a shot:
    A.	Off the shelf rigid frame in stock dimensions
    	Shortened rear section
    	De-rake neck until there is minimal front tire clearance
    B.	Inverted for from 03 GSXR 1000
    	Internally shortened if required
    	Custom triple trees to run as narrow as possible
    	Probably no front brake
    	Scratch built bars
    	BMW E30 headlight?
    C.	Custom controls, made by me where applicable
    	Foot clutch
    	Hand/jockey shift
    	Internal throttle
    D.	Shovelhead engine
    	Microsquirt EFI
    	Turbocharged (possibly an aerocharger to simplify the oiling system)
    	Some sort of wacky exhaust
    	Open primary
    	Debatably kick-onlyÖ  depends how my legs heal up in the build 
            timeframe
    E.	Custom wheels
    	Rad mfg hex hubs for supermoto
    	Rear wheel has to be a custom drilled 16x3.5 hoop
            	Coker 16x5.00
    	Front 18x2.15 rim
            	Coker 18x4.00 (may swap this out to a dualsport or trials tire)
    E.	Tins
    	I have some ideas for the fuel tank that involves cutting up what I 
              already have. Weíll see about that
    	Bobbed rear fenderÖ  Probably start by cutting up what I have but may 
              go some type of custom.  Whatever it is t will probably have a bunch 
              of holes drilled in it and jewels from the power lights of guitar amps 
              shoved in there
    	Probably no front fender
    G.	Custom parts
    	My goal is to make/repurpose as much stuff as possible. It will be very 
              PURCHASE intensive at the beginning, but that will give way to a lot of 
              custom shit later on.
    Anyhow, this weekend I spent HOURS and HOURS researching wheel tire combos... only to wind up back to something sort of standard but still pretty different. That's about all I did besides cleaning up the shop with GV1320.

    My initial plan was capitalize on 2 things:

    1) Supermoto wheels are meant for putting sportbike tires on a dirtbike
    2) Continental just released a 180/55/17 tire that is meant to put dirt tires on a sportbike (for what reason I have no idea)

    So my thought was to run THESE supermoto 17s


    With this REAR tire on BOTH the front and rear.


    Unfortunately, that would require a paughco WIDE frame. Wide frames are unbelievably gay, and there is no way I would ever use one on my bike. (Normal width frame can do 130 width tire tops)

    I really like the "modularness" of those hubs... you add on carriers for sprockets and rotors, that's what really drew me in, but the 17" wheel size was killing me as far as good tire selection.

    I really wanted a 16" rear tire (there are tons of good looking tall 16" tires) but the problem was that the hubs are 32/36 hole and all the 16" wheels with any width (i need 16x3.5 or so) are all 40 spoke...

    So what I decided to do was get a set of these 36 hole hubs in dark grey or dark brown


    And have a 16x3.5 excel blank rim drilled to 36 holes.

    For the front it will be a pretty standard MX built wheel 18x2.15

    I am going to run THIS on the back:


    And this TRIALS tire on the front:


    Very very time consuming to get here, but I think it will be worth it in the end.
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    why not mod the stock frame to fit what you want instead of buying an off-the-shelf frame? a tubing bender and some lowbrow customs axle plates would make pretty quick work of it really...

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    Quote Originally Posted by focusinprogress View Post
    why not mod the stock frame to fit what you want instead of buying an off-the-shelf frame? a tubing bender and some lowbrow customs axle plates would make pretty quick work of it really...
    Either way I'll have a "wide" frame and that's not what I want. When I actually sat down and crunched out the numbers that tire has a section width of 7+"... All I could think of was this:


    Which is arguably the cheesiest type of motorcycle ever.

    I really want a lot of sidewall... There just aren't many fat/tall dirtbike tires

    I plan on modding the off-the-shelf frame anyway. De-raking and shortening the rear... but easier to do that to a tubular aftermarket frame than a stock frame with all sorts of extra bullshit and castings on it.
    Last edited by newman; 12-31-2012 at 12:54 PM.
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    I wholeheartidly agree with that. I fucking HATE wide "choppers".

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    Decided I am going to hardtail this bitch myself. Going to start building a jig.

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    Completely unrelated, I love how these wheels were fabbed, and a ribbed tractor tire on front.



    this front end rules.



    This the tire look you're after?
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    fucks yeah DIY hardtail

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    I like where this is going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spam16v View Post


    This the tire look you're after?

    this bike rules so hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spam16v View Post


    This the tire look you're after?
    I like that it's been shortened but that looks like an 18 and a 21 or 23... I'm going 16R/18F with fatter tires front and rear. That bike is fucking awesome tho.

    ---------- Post added at 11:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 PM ----------

    Started making the jig today. Obviously still need to make the rear portion that will locate the dropouts, but I'm getting there...

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    Lanesplitter <3

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    Is that at work?!? They just let you take up a jig table for XX days?

    I can haz co-op?

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    It's not attached to the table. It's a sturdy structure with leveling adjusters, will probably have to re-level it at the beginning of each work session...
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    Ah, well if you sharpie around the feet and put it back where you picked it up from you probably won't have to re-level it.

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    I always wanted to play with a W650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spam16v View Post

    Rad.
    Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do
    Sometimes won't know how to take him

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